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Where would a pack of BULLY KUTTA be ranked on the predator hieracy in India
Topic Started: Jan 18 2013, 10:06 AM (16,801 Views)
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yes a female leopard can easy if she is pressed and wants to


she will just wrap around its neck
Female Leopard has a small head and isn't physically strong enough to be able to take the Bully Kutta as prey.
A female leopard would make mince meat of that skinny legged mutt, even a pair of dholes would beat the crap out of it.
Striped Hyenas have "skinny legs" as well, and dominate Leopards.I don't think a female leopard could kill an AFRICAN WILD DOG that easily. There is a big difference between a male leopard and a female leopard, and even the male leopard is a coward, but physically they are different.
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The whole 'skinny legs' argument is pointless, at large weights felids have more muscular forelimbs than canids, canids fight with there mouths, and Imperialdino, a female leopard would kill a wild dog very easily, she would have an easier time killing a wild dog than a bully kutta.
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yes a female leopard can easy if she is pressed and wants to


she will just wrap around its neck
Female Leopard has a small head and isn't physically strong enough to be able to take the Bully Kutta as prey.
A female leopard would make mince meat of that skinny legged mutt, even a pair of dholes would beat the crap out of it.
Striped Hyenas have "skinny legs" as well, and dominate Leopards.I don't think a female leopard could kill an AFRICAN WILD DOG that easily. There is a big difference between a male leopard and a female leopard, and even the male leopard is a coward, but physically they are different.
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lol A female leopard would kill an AWD with ease, what are you smoking? So what if leopards get dominated by striped hyenas? You know full well why, and leopards have killed striped hyenas before. Leopards are not cowards, they are smart and know how to survive. Something these dumb mutts don't. A female leopard would maul a bully kutta slightly less easily then a male would.
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Feb 18 2013, 04:34 AM
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Feb 16 2013, 07:00 AM
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Feb 15 2013, 06:09 AM
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Feb 2 2013, 02:28 AM
yes a female leopard can easy if she is pressed and wants to


she will just wrap around its neck
Female Leopard has a small head and isn't physically strong enough to be able to take the Bully Kutta as prey.
A female leopard would make mince meat of that skinny legged mutt, even a pair of dholes would beat the crap out of it.
Striped Hyenas have "skinny legs" as well, and dominate Leopards.I don't think a female leopard could kill an AFRICAN WILD DOG that easily. There is a big difference between a male leopard and a female leopard, and even the male leopard is a coward, but physically they are different.
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lol A female leopard would kill an AWD with ease, what are you smoking? So what if leopards get dominated by striped hyenas? You know full well why, and leopards have killed striped hyenas before. Leopards are not cowards, they are smart and know how to survive. Something these dumb mutts don't. A female leopard would maul a bully kutta slightly less easily then a male would.
K9BOY let's do a little analyzing and overlapping. You, I, and everybody on this forum can very well see a 70 pound male AWD put up a tough fight against a 85 pound female leopard.

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A Bully Kutta pup playing with an Adult German Shepherd that it probably thinks is it's mom. Nice. I can post a video of an adult Jack Russell play dominating a Pitbull pup.
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Yeah that was a poor argument there, two friendly dogs wrestling together, and I'd back a bully kutta over a GSD, only the big high drive, working line shepherds would have a chance.

And on the topic, the dogs could catch deer and small game, the dogs would fall prey to the large cats of the region, possibly crocodiles as well, the changes in season and the fluctuation of prey numbers would take there toll on the dogs physical prowess, disease and other untreated injuries would pick off the dogs, without pariah dogs to breed with the dogs gene pool would become polluted and degenerate, assuming the dogs could even survive long enough to raise a litter.
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A pack of 16 border collies would do better
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Single Bully Kuttas are a match for a Leopard, let alone a pack. I'd rank a small pack just below a Lion.
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Single Bully Kuttas are a match for a Leopard, let alone a pack. I'd rank a small pack just below a Lion.
Singly, Bully Kuttas would only stand a chance agaist a female leopard if they had a decent size advantage, and even then it might not be enough, no domestic dog stands a real chance against an adult male leopard of similar size.
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Single Bully Kuttas are a match for a Leopard, let alone a pack. I'd rank a small pack just below a Lion.
Singly, Bully Kuttas would only stand a chance agaist a female leopard if they had a decent size advantage, and even then it might not be enough, no domestic dog stands a real chance against an adult male leopard of similar size.
Considering the largest Bully Kuttas are around 130 pounds, I wouldn't give a female Leopard any real chance similarly against one. A Male Leopard has no real advantage either other than hunting experience and grappling, so really the dog could give the Leopard significant trouble.
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Single Bully Kuttas are a match for a Leopard, let alone a pack. I'd rank a small pack just below a Lion.
Singly, Bully Kuttas would only stand a chance agaist a female leopard if they had a decent size advantage, and even then it might not be enough, no domestic dog stands a real chance against an adult male leopard of similar size.
Considering the largest Bully Kuttas are around 130 pounds, I wouldn't give a female Leopard any real chance similarly against one. A Male Leopard has no real advantage either other than hunting experience and grappling, so really the dog could give the Leopard significant trouble.
From ambush, which is likely how an interaction between the two in a totally wild situation would go down, the leopard would overpower and deal out it's trademark suffocating bite before the Kutta could put up any real sort of defense, leopards and most cats in general are very capable of shutting prey down quickly given the element of surprise.

In a full frontal confrontation, a Kutta with a good size advantage over a female leopard could potentially control and overpower her, though that dog would be clawed to kingdom come afterwards.

But as to why people would back a domestic dog over a Tom leopard, no dog can match an animal that fights like this:





The Kutta would soon find itself outmaneuvered and overpowered.
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The problem with the way they fight is they lose puff to early and need to rest. If fighting a larger, competent dog, the leopard won't be given its breather and will struggle if it can't get a good hold on the dog in the initial rush.
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The problem with the way they fight is they lose puff to early and need to rest. If fighting a larger, competent dog, the leopard won't be given its breather and will struggle if it can't get a good hold on the dog in the initial rush.
True, canids in general have more wind, however I'd think that it wouldn't take a Tom leopard too long to subdue a large dog.
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The problem with the way they fight is they lose puff to early and need to rest. If fighting a larger, competent dog, the leopard won't be given its breather and will struggle if it can't get a good hold on the dog in the initial rush.
True, canids in general have more wind, however I'd think that it wouldn't take a Tom leopard too long to subdue a large dog.
Well in that first video the leopards stop after 20 seconds. A large and adept enough dog should certainly be able to resist that, from a smaller leopard at least.
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Single Bully Kuttas are a match for a Leopard, let alone a pack. I'd rank a small pack just below a Lion.
Singly, Bully Kuttas would only stand a chance agaist a female leopard if they had a decent size advantage, and even then it might not be enough, no domestic dog stands a real chance against an adult male leopard of similar size.
Considering the largest Bully Kuttas are around 130 pounds, I wouldn't give a female Leopard any real chance similarly against one. A Male Leopard has no real advantage either other than hunting experience and grappling, so really the dog could give the Leopard significant trouble.
From ambush, which is likely how an interaction between the two in a totally wild situation would go down, the leopard would overpower and deal out it's trademark suffocating bite before the Kutta could put up any real sort of defense, leopards and most cats in general are very capable of shutting prey down quickly given the element of surprise.

In a full frontal confrontation, a Kutta with a good size advantage over a female leopard could potentially control and overpower her, though that dog would be clawed to kingdom come afterwards.

But as to why people would back a domestic dog over a Tom leopard, no dog can match an animal that fights like this:





The Kutta would soon find itself outmaneuvered and overpowered.
Felines will have a distinctly different fighting style against each other than that of the cursorial canid.

Bully Kutta and other semi-fighting/lgd dogs will fight with similar fervor and tenacity, quickly subduing or lunging at each other

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Not showing against will, it is a dog fight, with a link instead of video, for extra care.

The Leopard of any type will find significant trouble overpowering the dog without grounding itself first, an unfavourable position for the felid mostly.

At the same size I'd favour the male leopard slightly 55/45, as the Bully Kutta I do not compare pound-for-pound as impressive as other dogs, but once it gets above 135 lbs, that's when I'd usually start to assume the Kutta would give it trouble.
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The problem with the way they fight is they lose puff to early and need to rest. If fighting a larger, competent dog, the leopard won't be given its breather and will struggle if it can't get a good hold on the dog in the initial rush.
True, canids in general have more wind, however I'd think that it wouldn't take a Tom leopard too long to subdue a large dog.
Well in that first video the leopards stop after 20 seconds. A large and adept enough dog should certainly be able to resist that, from a smaller leopard at least.
Yes, as I previously stated I feel that if you put a Kutta up against a smaller female leopard the dog would have at least a fighting chance, though it would be severely clawed, I find it doubtful that a domestic dog could deal with a male leopard, or even a female of similar size, though I don't flat out disregard the possibility I just favor the leopard.

Also, the leopards stamina is not that atrocious, they were able to continue fighting savagely for a long time after the intermittent breaks, it's not like they'll keel over wheezing and gasping after 20 seconds of strenuous fighting, and I think that if the leopard succeeded in it's first rush, overpowered the dog with it's embrace and bought it to the ground, there would be very little the dog could do about it.
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