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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 23 2013, 11:15 PM (6,783 Views) | |
| Full Throttle | Feb 24 2013, 10:43 PM Post #16 |
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There behavior was quite odd, 12 wolves and no attempt to defend the kill? The y must all have eaten their fill or they were really scared of that hyena. I'm inclined to agree with taipan, if that hyena had tried it with a pack of AWDS or north american wolves it would have been repelled, maybe even killed. |
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| k9boy | Feb 24 2013, 11:10 PM Post #17 |
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I doubt even a single north american wolf would tolerate a striped hyena the way those 12 arabians ones did. |
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| Black Ice | Feb 24 2013, 11:41 PM Post #18 |
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The north American variety would have attacked it like they do coyotes. |
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| MightyKharza | Feb 24 2013, 11:45 PM Post #19 |
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Bear in mind that this hyena wasn't even a peak physical specimen of the species. It was female (striped hyena females are smaller than males, unlike the spotted species), and this took place in the Arabian peninsula, where the species reaches smaller sizes than it does in India and Central Asia. |
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| Black Ice | Feb 24 2013, 11:48 PM Post #20 |
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Striped hyena are honey badgers ![]() Edit: I hope everyone knows striped hyena are bigger than arabian wolves (which average 40lbs) Edited by Black Ice, Feb 24 2013, 11:52 PM.
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| k9boy | Feb 24 2013, 11:55 PM Post #21 |
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Doubt it. A bite could still badly injure even a north american wolf. |
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| Black Ice | Feb 24 2013, 11:58 PM Post #22 |
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A lot of things bites could hurt a larger animal. That still doesn't save them 9/10. This hyena would be treated like a coyote. |
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| k9boy | Feb 25 2013, 12:03 AM Post #23 |
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Well that would be a foolish mistake on the wolfs part. A coyote poses 0 threat to even a small female wolf, And while I would back a north american wolf against a striped hyena it would be a close fight. I really doubt a wolf would be dumb enough to treat a striped hyena like a coyote. |
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| Black Ice | Feb 25 2013, 12:06 AM Post #24 |
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I'm pretty sure a bite from another NA grey wolf is many times more deadly than a bite from a 70lb striped hyena. A strong bite alone does not make a damaging bite. The would infact see this hyena as a weird looking coyote. |
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| Vita | Feb 25 2013, 12:20 AM Post #25 |
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Regarding striped hyena and their "bites"
http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9824133/1/?x=25#new I think a striped hyena could hold its own quite well against wolf at parity. They are known to kill LGD dogs much larger than the wolves they dispatch in that region. Edited by Vita, Feb 25 2013, 12:20 AM.
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| Black Ice | Feb 25 2013, 12:23 AM Post #26 |
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At parity a 70lb NA wolf is a minimum end female. Lycaon sure does make a point about people swearing on the parity law. Even though I do it as well on occasion. Edited by Black Ice, Feb 25 2013, 12:24 AM.
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| Vita | Feb 25 2013, 12:28 AM Post #27 |
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North American wolves would be too large and too powerful for a striped hyena, no way. I'm referring to populations of canis lupus where they generally reach an average between 60-80 pounds. Striped hyena aren't that large, especially the females. |
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| k9boy | Feb 25 2013, 12:31 AM Post #28 |
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Woah, Thanks for the account k9Crocuta. I have underestimated the striped hyena. |
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| Black Ice | Feb 25 2013, 12:34 AM Post #29 |
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Oh I thought you were with k9boy in saying a NA wolf would struggle with a striped hyena. I agree with the rest of your post though. K9boy personally killing a panther with a bullet in it's neck isn't that impressive seeing as how a injured neck severely impairs motor skills. Still nice though. |
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| Sicilianu | Feb 25 2013, 12:36 AM Post #30 |
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It is indeed strange that the so many wolves gave way to the hyena. I believe it had to do with motivation and perhaps awareness of the filming crew, creating unease in the pack. If the wolves wanted to end the hyena, they would. One or two would die, but the hyena would not survive an attack from so many. You would need a big cat or a bear to handle that many wolves at once to have a chance of living. I agree with Full Throttle. These wolves were probably not hungry enough to risk injury. It is really nice to see footage of Arabian wolves. I wonder if there is a video of dingoes using that type of camera (infrared?). It would allow for a nice comparison between the two for that match up. Overall, the wolves are small for sure, but they still seem more robust than say an Eastern coyote and certainly more than a golden jackal. As for the narration, Mr. Siddig (from Star Trek Deep Space Nine) did not write the script, so I would not blame him for the little exaggerations in the series. I watched the first episode last night, and I thought it was pretty good. I enjoyed the window into the culture of Bedouins. It was also nice to see the jerboas highlighted. The footage of the lizard changing color was very cool as well. I look forward to this next episode. Edited by Sicilianu, Feb 25 2013, 12:37 AM.
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