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| Full Throttle | Apr 12 2013, 10:26 PM Post #1 |
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Alright everybody, I'm not a paleontologist by any means but I am a lover of movies, and the Jurassic park franchise is one of my favorites, and I know a fair few of you all feel the same way, not a day goes by were someone isn't posting on what they want the film to be like, who they want to be cast in it and, most importantly which dinosaurs they want to see. So I thought I'd make a thread so we could all post what dinosaurs we want to see in JP4 and why, I'm sure your dinosaur experts will drum up some great, obscure dinosaurs that I've never even heard of but here's the dinosaurs I'd personally like to see in JP4. ![]() 1. The nocturnal, venomous troodon from JP the game. I know if these are the new dinosaurs in the film some people will probably feel cheated because they are small and they've already been featured in the video game. But personally, I love the design and the idea behind these things, nocturnal, pack hunting, venomous predators with eerie glowing eyes, that is a great concept. I think these particular dinosaurs could be used very effectively in the film, if theirs one movie franchise I love it's horror, and horror is one of the most popular genres today. Just look at the success of all the horror movies to come out recently, to me, the idea of these glowing eyed troodon lunging out at people in the dead of night or in a dark enclosed space is really cool and good for jump scares, and movies that make you jump are the ones that say with you the longest, the original JP new this and made use of it in the scene with the velociraptors in the control room you need a fear element to work with the adventure element to make a truly memorable film, and the troodon fits the bill perfectly. ![]() 2. Allosaurus. This is probably the theropod everyone wants to see in this movie, and I can see why. It's just a cool animal, not as big or as powerful as the the tyrannosaurs but still fast enough to run a jeep off the road, I think the addition of a new giant theropod would be welcomed and if they're going to pick any, why not the one the fans are demanding to see? To be honest, theirs probably more giant theropods that I don't know about that could provide an even better candidate, so I'm not really bothered what species the new giant theropod is, as long as it doesn't diminish T.rexes screen time, I'm happy. ![]() 3. Tyrannosaurs Rex. T.rex was my favorite dinosaur when I was a kid and it was everyone elses too, for one reason, Jurassic park. Jurassic park 1 & 2 took an already popular dinosaur and turned it into a superstar. T.rex is the poster child of the franchise, 80% of the people going to watch jurassic park are going for the T.rex, and why shouldn't they love him? T.rex in jurassic parkwas the epitome of cool, and he needs to be restored to his former glory. Don't get me wrong, I liked the spinosaurs in JP3, I thought it made a great addition and it was an awesome animal, but I don't think it should become a trend that the new theropod completely overshadows the T.rex, change is fine but come on, it's the T.rex!! A new dinosaur would be great and revitalize the franchise, but the public want's to see T.rex eating people, smashing down buildings, crushing cars and just generally bringing the pain. So give em what they want, make T.rex like he was in the first two films, so awesome that you were expecting it to bust out of the screen and wreck your whole neighbourhood. Those are the ones I'd most like to see, thoroughly explained. To be honest, I can't see more than one species being introduced effectively because of pacing of the film and money issues, but if they do at least one of the three things I posted I think the movie will be a success, at least to me anyway. |
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| coherentsheaf | Apr 14 2013, 01:41 AM Post #31 |
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Hm, just because a movie monster would be easy to avoid in real life you it does not mean you can not make a movie about it. In fact every threat in jurassic park could in real life be neutralized by a decent rifle coupled with reasonable marksmanship. |
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| Ausar | Apr 14 2013, 01:47 AM Post #32 |
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Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can!
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2 hours? Who said the movie's going to be confined to that kind of time? I realize that most movies have a duration of 2 hours, but for all we know, Jurassic Park 4 could very well be longer (or shorter). And who says we can't fit a lot of animals, "character development", "sophisticated plot", and "fast rhythm action scenes" all into one movie? Put a fraction of the animals into one scene, another fraction into another, and keep this going. It's not that hard. Instead of one or two animals into one scene, why not have several of them? Bottom line, we could very well fit many animals into one movie. Edited by Ausar, Apr 14 2013, 01:51 AM.
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| Big G | Apr 14 2013, 01:48 AM Post #33 |
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Antagonist: Giganotosaurus / Tyrannotitan / Carcharodontosaurus Secondary antagonists: Troodon / Carnotaurus / Dilophosaurus Marine reptiles: Deinosuchus / Liopleurodon Edited by Big G, Apr 14 2013, 01:49 AM.
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| SpinoInWonderland | Apr 14 2013, 02:01 AM Post #34 |
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The madness has come back...
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The issue is that merely being on land, where Jurassic Park is, would by default neutralize the threat of Pliosaurus funkei. Also, it would be hard to get good shots in the situations the JP characters were in, the dinosaurs don't charge right at them in the open. |
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| Jinfengopteryx | Apr 14 2013, 03:09 AM Post #35 |
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No, that was the monster of aramberri: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/seamonsters/factfiles/liopleurodon.shtml But in 2003 a fossil pliosaur (possibly a Liopleurodon) was discovered in Mexico which was 18 metres long and still a juvenile - suggesting that they grew considerably larger than this. |
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| coherentsheaf | Apr 14 2013, 03:19 AM Post #36 |
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The raptors would have been dead if Grant had not randomly emptied his bullets after the scene where they try to push in the door or if the stpid gun was not out of reach in this scene or if the boy would have give the gun to grant in this scene, or in many other scenes if the protagonists jus had ifles. Similarly if someone in the cars had a rifle t-rey wuld have been dead in its first scene. The opportunities where the dinosaur would have die if the humans had a rifle and used it properly would hae been legion. |
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| Spinodontosaurus | Apr 14 2013, 03:39 AM Post #37 |
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I had always thought it was Pliosaurus macromerus given its locality, time span and the fact it was once referred to as Liopleurodon macromerus anyway. Although it wouldn't surprise me if P. macromerus was at least noted as extra 'justification'. EDIT: Actually no, that is the BBC just covering themselves. If MoA was discovered in 2003, it cannot have been used as the basis for a 'documentary' released in 1996/1997. Edited by Spinodontosaurus, Apr 14 2013, 03:43 AM.
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| Dino Master | Apr 14 2013, 04:42 AM Post #38 |
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If two paleontologists who aren't trained in shooting, a mathematician, a rich billionaire, and two kids even could use a rifle high powered enough to kill anything like a T.rex could, where would they get one? There are no lethal weapons on the island because the dinosaurs were too expensive to have them. And if the big African game hunter on the island gets outsmarted and killed by those raptors, it would be a hard time to kill them. Your weapons you normally would use to kill them wouldn't be there. You would pretty much be f**ked. |
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| Apex | Apr 14 2013, 04:47 AM Post #39 |
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I'd like to see a new island as in jp two the fisherman said that there were five islands of death not just two. I'd like to see a scenario where a cruise liner is attacked by a giant pliosaur, the survivers are washed up onto a new island with hardly any weapons and are being chased by troodon and ekrixinatosaurus but no one knows they are there |
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| Monitor X | Apr 14 2013, 05:02 AM Post #40 |
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In The Lost World, the hunters are amred with guns and rifles and we see them trying to use it when they are chased by the Tyrex, with no effect. Only the character Roland Tembo has the rilfle and the ammo to subdue an adult Tyrex, but his rifle is sabotaged by Nick Van Owen. Let's try to not underestimate dinos resilience, killing a large African mammal is not that easy and already require specific weapons and ammo. |
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| Ausar | Apr 14 2013, 05:12 AM Post #41 |
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Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can!
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Never mind, I just remembered they already had Lindstradt rifles. Edited by Ausar, Apr 14 2013, 05:13 AM.
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| coherentsheaf | Apr 14 2013, 05:12 AM Post #42 |
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You think the men specifically armed for the job in the lost world and jurassic park would not have ammo good enough to kill dinosaurs ... yeah sure. There is a reasn why homo sapiens is the most dominant species on the planet. Btw poacher with bad equipment have little problem killing elephants - they just have to aim better and take more shots. |
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| coherentsheaf | Apr 14 2013, 05:15 AM Post #43 |
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Non lethal weapons except for the ones we see in the movie. If the characters in the film had acted ratnally and kept their cool, even their lack of training would not stop them. After all you just have to pull the trigger. |
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| SpinoInWonderland | Apr 14 2013, 07:22 PM Post #44 |
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The madness has come back...
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The reason, is the KT extinction... |
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| coherentsheaf | Apr 14 2013, 08:21 PM Post #45 |
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I meant that after hominids evlved, most animals just could not compete - your answer with the KPg event is meaninless - If we were to talk about the abilities of Barack Obama and I say, remarking on his abilities 'There is a reason that he became President' and you want to dispute that and say ' He just became president because his mom did not have sex with someone else than Obama Sr. at the time of his conception' you did not adress the argument properly - because my claim was about his abilities, not about how he came to be. ma |
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