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Africa Leopard v Asiatic Lioness
Topic Started: Apr 26 2013, 09:19 PM (17,983 Views)
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African Leopard - Panthera pardus pardus
The African Leopard (Panthera pardus pardus) is a leopard subspecies occurring across most of sub-Saharan Africa. In 2008, the IUCN classified leopards as Near Threatened, stating that they may soon qualify for the Vulnerable status due to habitat loss and fragmentation. They are becoming increasingly rare outside protected areas. The trend of the population is decreasing. African leopards exhibit great variation in coat color, depending on location and habitat. Coat color varies from pale yellow to deep gold or tawny, and sometimes black, and is patterned with black rosettes while the head, lower limbs and belly are spotted with solid black. Male leopards are larger, averaging 60 kg (130 lb) with 91 kg (200 lb) being the maximum weight attained by a male. Females weigh about 35 to 40 kg (77 to 88 lb) in average. Between 1996 and 2000, 11 adult leopards were radio-collared on Namibian farmlands. Males weighed 37.5 to 52.3 kg (83 to 115 lb) only, and females 24 to 33.5 kg (53 to 74 lb).Leopards inhabiting the mountains of the Cape Provinces appear physically different from leopards further north. Their average weight may be only half that of the more northerly leopard.

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Asian Lioness - Panthera leo persica
The Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persica), also known as the Indian lion, is a lion subspecies that exists as a single isolated population in India's Gujarat State. It is listed as Endangered by IUCN based on the small population size. The lion population has steadily increased in Gir Forest National Park, more than doubling from a low of 180 individuals in 1974 to a level of 411 individuals consisting of 97 adult males, 162 adult females, 75 sub-adults, and 77 cubs as of April 2010. The Asiatic lion was first described by the Austrian zoologist Meyer under the trinomen Felis leo persicus.[4] It is one of the five big cats found in India, apart from Bengal tiger, Indian leopard, snow leopard and clouded leopard. It formerly occurred in Persia, Mesopotamia, Baluchistan, from Sind in the west to Bengal in the east, and from Rampur and Rohilkund in the north to Nerbudda in the south. It differs from the African lion by less inflated auditory bullae, a larger tail tuft and a less developed mane. The most striking morphological character, which is always seen in Asiatic lions, but rarely in African lions, is a longitudinal fold of skin running along its belly. Asiatic lions are slightly smaller than African lions. Adult females weigh 110 to 120 kg (240 to 260 lb).

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Cains Warrior
Apr 25 2013, 12:40 PM
male african leopard v Asian lioness
not a mismatch if a leopard can stand his ground against 4 african lioness watchhere
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I think we should take the minimum weight (83 kg) for the lioness to make this fight more even.
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Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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Any more details into that? I can't see any source stating a Leopard killing an African Lion(ness) to be true, unless the Lion in that source was a juvenile.
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Bandog
Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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These old accounts from captivity, always turn up interesting results:

"A stocky cat, up to 14.0 kg in weight, possessing claws, and capable of killing an animal the size of a
leopard, fishing cats could cause serious injury to people (Anon 1991) cited in (Cat Survival Trust 2002),
(Blanford 1888) cited in (Lekagul and McNeelly 1988), (Finn 1929, Nowak 1999).
The reference to fishing cats killing leopards originates from a 1929 reference (Finn 1929). Finn reports on a
captive fishing cat breaking through a dividing wall into the next cage containing a tame, young female
leopard, twice the size of the fishing cat, and killing it."

http://www.feral.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Prionailurus_viverrinus_VPCendorsed_270410.pdf

And other interesting stories:

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Edited by Taipan, Apr 27 2013, 08:06 PM.
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Apr 27 2013, 07:49 PM
Bandog
Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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Any more details into that? I can't see any source stating a Leopard killing an African Lion(ness) to be true, unless the Lion in that source was a juvenile.
No I just had it saved from a while ago. They're captive animals that were raised together anyway so it isn't indicative of a wild scenario.
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Taipan
Apr 27 2013, 08:03 PM
Bandog
Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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These old accounts from captivity, always turn up interesting results:

"A stocky cat, up to 14.0 kg in weight, possessing claws, and capable of killing an animal the size of a
leopard, fishing cats could cause serious injury to people (Anon 1991) cited in (Cat Survival Trust 2002),
(Blanford 1888) cited in (Lekagul and McNeelly 1988), (Finn 1929, Nowak 1999).
The reference to fishing cats killing leopards originates from a 1929 reference (Finn 1929). Finn reports on a
captive fishing cat breaking through a dividing wall into the next cage containing a tame, young female
leopard, twice the size of the fishing cat, and killing it."

http://www.feral.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Prionailurus_viverrinus_VPCendorsed_270410.pdf
Even more so with the leopard and lion seeing as they were raised together.
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yigit05
Apr 27 2013, 05:22 PM
leopard win more muscular,stronger bite,agility
lioness weight,size avantage
You don't need to post on here anymore if you think the Leopard is more muscular and stronger, that's pure ignorance. Lioness dwarf leopards.
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Bandog
Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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Old 1800s fictional book articles aren't taken seriously here newb. There's been accounts on little white pages like you posted of Fishing Cats killing Leopards and all sorts of other myths that I can't even remember on animal vs animal boards over the years.

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The Asiatic Lioness wins atleast 95% of the time
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Apr 27 2013, 10:23 PM
Bandog
Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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Old 1800s fictional book articles aren't taken seriously here newb. There's been accounts on little white pages like you posted of Fishing Cats killing Leopards and all sorts of other myths that I can't even remember on animal vs animal boards over the years.

Sorry, but when did I say I took it seriously? I posted it because it was relevant to the topic and so people could make up their own minds. In case you didn't notice (you obviously didnt), I myself poked holes through it. You really need to work on your comprehension skills, fool.
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Mismatch... Asiatic lioness being bigger easyly wins.
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ImperialDino
Apr 27 2013, 10:23 PM
Bandog
Apr 27 2013, 06:04 PM
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Old 1800s fictional book articles aren't taken seriously here newb. There's been accounts on little white pages like you posted of Fishing Cats killing Leopards and all sorts of other myths that I can't even remember on animal vs animal boards over the years.

an off topic:
you're the last person who can speak the authenticity of "fin de si├Ęcle" accounts, because you are as authentic as a bill of $ 31
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It amazes me how anyone could be so unknowleged to say the leopard could win this! the leopard coulden`t stand a chance against a lion, asiatic or african.. the lion could kill it within seconds if it wanted... lion 100/100 times, the leopard could never win! its smaller, slower, its just quicker and little bit more agile...
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Apr 29 2013, 07:09 AM
It amazes me how anyone could be so unknowleged to say the leopard could win this! the leopard coulden`t stand a chance against a lion, asiatic or african.. the lion could kill it within seconds if it wanted... lion 100/100 times, the leopard could never win! its smaller, slower, its just quicker and little bit more agile...
Smaller, slower, it's just quicker ? :huh: I do agree that the lioness would win the majority of encounters though, she has a pretty big weight advantage over even the largest male leopards.
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Apr 29 2013, 07:34 AM
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Apr 29 2013, 07:09 AM
It amazes me how anyone could be so unknowleged to say the leopard could win this! the leopard coulden`t stand a chance against a lion, asiatic or african.. the lion could kill it within seconds if it wanted... lion 100/100 times, the leopard could never win! its smaller, slower, its just quicker and little bit more agile...
Smaller, slower, it's just quicker ? :huh: I do agree that the lioness would win the majority of encounters though, she has a pretty big weight advantage over even the largest male leopards.
lol lol
The logic!

Agreed, ofcourse the leopard could be lucky maybe 2 out of 100 times, but that would definently not be the norm. A male pantanal jaguar could make it intresting actually.
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