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| Bite force of sauropods?; How hard do you think can sauropods bite? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 2 2013, 03:47 AM (4,932 Views) | |
| SpinoInWonderland | May 2 2013, 03:47 AM Post #1 |
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The madness has come back...
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How hard, do you think, sauropods can bite? Can they reach surprisingly high bite forces, for the largest sauropods at least? Or are they wayyy low? Can a large sauropod hypothetically break someone's arm with it's bite? If you ask me, I think the very largest of sauropods, like Amphicoelias fragillimus, can bite with a force comparable to hyenas, and that creatures like Europasaurus have bite forces comparable to that of a human child... Hypothesize and speculate! |
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| theropod | May 3 2013, 04:24 AM Post #16 |
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palaeontology, open source and survival enthusiast
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An Amphicoelias/Parabrontopodus-sized sauropod's skull would physically dwarf that of Baryonyx or Suchomimus. These animals also are not known for having particularly robustly constructed jaws, built for strong biting, hence I don't find it too unreasonable to assume a vary large sauropod would have had a stronger bite force. |
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| MightyMaus | May 7 2013, 08:46 AM Post #17 |
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Autotrophic Organism
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Camarasaurids and Brachiosaurids probably had decent bite forces, but Diplodocids were pretty weak. I'b bet a big 50+ ton sauropod could bite hard enough to break some bones.
Edited by MightyMaus, May 7 2013, 08:47 AM.
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| Shaochilong | May 8 2013, 01:37 AM Post #18 |
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Pretty much this. A sauropod's bite might parallel or exceed one of the weaker-biting theropods like abelisaurids, but it would almost certainly not overtake an allosaurid's bite force, never mind a tyrannosaurid's. Edited by Shaochilong, May 8 2013, 01:42 AM.
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| theropod | May 8 2013, 05:01 AM Post #19 |
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Depends on the allosaurid, it might just overtake something like MOR936 at a more conservative estimate for the theropod. I don't actually know why everyone seems to think abelisaurs had such weak bites, were's that from? That might be true for some specialized forms (carnotaurus, rugops...) but certainly not all. |
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| MightyMaus | May 9 2013, 08:29 AM Post #20 |
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Also, Parabrontopodus, wasn't nearly as big as Amphicoelias or the Broome titanosaur. |
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| SpinoInWonderland | Jun 2 2013, 02:37 AM Post #21 |
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The madness has come back...
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Probably from Majungasaurus' wimpy lower jaw... Edited by SpinoInWonderland, Jun 2 2013, 03:06 AM.
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| theropod | Jun 2 2013, 03:00 AM Post #22 |
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Not all of them have a whimpy lower jaw. Apart from that, carnosaurs and the majority of other theropods usually don't have robust mandibulae either. |
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| SpinoInWonderland | Jun 2 2013, 03:05 AM Post #23 |
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The madness has come back...
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Yeah, they pretty much generalized abelisaurs based on the stuff Cau wrote iirc, some of Verdugo's posts have it... |
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| ffejgao995 | Mar 16 2015, 05:00 AM Post #24 |
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I'm with you on this. Sauropods are herbivores so no strong bite force needed. I mean, horses eat just hay, grass, corn and things like that but who would put his/her fingers into a horse's mouth? And sauropods are way bigger than horses. |
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| DinosaurFan95 | Mar 17 2015, 08:53 AM Post #25 |
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Diplodocids had weak jaws, mainly used to rake leaves. |
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| Grimace | Mar 17 2015, 11:59 AM Post #26 |
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Thats not how it works at all necessarily. Iguanas do the same "herbivores who don't chew" thing, but are known for having really godawful nasty bites and slicing people's hands open. |
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| DinosaurFan95 | Mar 19 2015, 04:50 AM Post #27 |
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But iguanaskulls are build differently than sauropod skulls. |
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| Grimace | Mar 19 2015, 08:03 AM Post #28 |
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True, I was just poiting out "not chewing" doesn't mean an animal doesnt have a damaging bite. |
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| DinosaurFan95 | Mar 19 2015, 02:09 PM Post #29 |
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I know, I was just throwing differing jaw structures into the equation. |
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| Ausar | May 2 2015, 12:49 AM Post #30 |
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Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can!
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That was a really old post. But I have no idea why I said that . By that logic, no carnivore could bite hard.
Edited by Ausar, Feb 10 2017, 02:13 AM.
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. By that logic, no carnivore could bite hard.
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