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Predator - prey relationships
Topic Started: Aug 25 2013, 12:39 AM (63,589 Views)
Ceratodromeus
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Yeah, as much as I would normally assume that snake was cold or something, if it was that monitor likely would be cold too. It isn't outisde the realm of possibility, but I'd bet it was injured already or something.
I'd suggest the monitor had already been bashing it around for a few minutes before they got there which is why it's looking the worse for wear. It doesn't get cold in noosa. There is nothing even mildly unusual about what was seen there. Monitor lizards thrash snakes to death every day.
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The jaguar kills tapir account that I already posted translated so you can understand:
" The tapir that turned banquet in the Park of Iguaçu
I want to share with the readers of (o)) eco a history, such as nature tells, that occurred on a routine inspection day inside the forest of the Iguaçu National Park.

I work at the ICMBio (Chico Mendes Institute for Nature Conservation) in the Iguaçu National Park, located in the far west of Paraná and known for the majestic falls and dense forest that covers its 185 thousand hectares.

There are those who imagine that working in a National Park is to be "guardian of paradise".

I hear expressions like, "Ah, but you work in a beautiful place, it's what I wanted for my life, it must be very nice to work here ...". It is true. Only in this paradise is the fight of animals for survival. We are there guarding and also learning.

The surprise

Going through "stings" opened by hunters and palmers, who unfortunately still insist on destroying the little that remained of the Atlantic Forest of Paraná and Brazil, ICMBio's park rangers came upon a dead animal. It was an immense tapir (Tapirus terrestris) with approximately 150 kilos.

Had she been shot or poisoned? Further examination by experienced tax officials showed that the animal had been predated by a large feline, certainly a jaguar.

Frightened that the feline was still near the site of the predation, due to the apparent "jaguar of an ounce" hovering over the site of the deadly battle, the prosecutors decided to radio the technicians of the Carnivorous Iguassu project.

They suspected that the feline would return to finish his meal, which, incidentally, had not even begun. The technicians quickly followed the coordinates indicated by the prosecutors taking all necessary arsenal: shotgun, anesthetics, radio collar, trap cameras and, of course, courage.

They set up camp near the appointed place and there was nothing left but to wait for the long awaited feast of the feline. After all, a lot of fresh meat waited to be devoured.

Photographic traps strategically installed to record the great moment, all waiting for the majestic jaguar. It would be another record for the history of these animals in the Park. Who knows, this ounce would be an unmarked specimen, a healthy male or a pregnant female. The hope of the biologists of the project is to find in each expedition a new specimen in the Park, given the decrease of these felines in the Atlantic Forest.

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The animal arrived and the photographic traps went off. Everything has been documented. But it was not the jaguar, the top animal in the food chain, that appeared.

However, the tapir was totally devoured. Only your bones are left. The photographs taken automatically - without author - were stored in the Park database.

The records showed intriguing scenes inside the forest. In the end, instead of voracious felines making a full meal - as we would see in National Geographic documentaries - the tapir eater were several adult individuals of the species Urubu-rei (Sarcoramphus papa), consumers on duty and direct cleaners Of the place.

The pussy ( NOT WHAT IT MEANS IN PORTUGUESE, in portuguese "bichano" is a slang that we commonly used to call any felid species and is not even close to the meaning the translator gives. ) disappeared and did not return to the place where he killed the tapir. Perhaps this jaguar has felt the "scent of men" or the noises arising from human activities in the area. Withdrawal caused another species to end the story she had begun.

Nothing is lost in nature, someone has already written.

To see this maxim happen at close quarters is part of the surprises, or another day in the lives of the guardians of paradise.
 
* Jorge Pegoraro, is an environmental analyst at the Chico Mendes Institute and head of the Iguaçu National Park.

http://www.oeco.org.br/colunas/colunistas-convidados/27858-a-anta-que-virou-banquete-no-parque-do-iguacu/
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Yeah, as much as I would normally assume that snake was cold or something, if it was that monitor likely would be cold too. It isn't outisde the realm of possibility, but I'd bet it was injured already or something.
I'd suggest the monitor had already been bashing it around for a few minutes before they got there which is why it's looking the worse for wear. It doesn't get cold in noosa. There is nothing even mildly unusual about what was seen there. Monitor lizards thrash snakes to death every day.
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Confusing image, is that 2 snakes mating while killing an iguana? Pretty kinky.
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lol one boa killing an iguana



Interesting...
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"Deer hunters are facing competition from a source that is mean, relentless and out of control.

The explosion of feral hogs across the U.S. is threatening the deer population -- spreading disease, dominating the food chain and even, on occasion, killing and eating fawns. In Louisiana, where there are an estimated 700,000 wild hogs, hunters and wildlife officials say they are taking a toll on the whitetail deer herd.

"They are in the marshes and beaches of Louisiana all the way up into the hills and piney woods and swamps," Jim LaCour, state wildlife veterinarian for the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, told FoxNews.com. "They’re in every habitat in the state."

They’re very adaptable and also highly destructive," LaCour said.

LaCour described the feral pigs, which can weigh up to 500 pounds, as "opportunistic" eaters -- omnivores that feast on anything crossing their path, including deer fawn, other piglets and dead animals.

LaCour said hogs carry many diseases, such as leptospirosis, which can infect or kill other animals, like deer, as well as humans.

"Hogs are the sport utility vehicle for disease and parasites -- they move them across the landscape," he said. "That bacteria [leptospirosis] can cause abortion in the deer – and it can kill adult deer or people."

Their presence is also detrimental to the land, forcing wildlife officials to carry out aerial gunning in certain areas "because they tear up the marsh and that leads to coastal erosion."

Hogs were first introduced to North America by Spanish settlers. The breed most commonly seen in Texas is a mixture of those hogs and Russian boars brought over more recently for sport hunting, according to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department.

Some speculate the population boom is due to relatively recent cross-breeding in the wild. Others, like LaCour, say the popularity of hog hunting in the 1980's and early '90's led humans to move the feral pigs from confined, geographically isolated areas into places they had never been before.

Wild hogs can reproduce by the time they are 6 months old. Feral sows can have two litters per year averaging six piglets per litter, according to wildlife experts. Statisticians have determined that 75 percent of the population must be harvested to maintain a static population -- prompting Louisiana and other states to adopt liberal hunting policies when it comes to killing the hogs. Texas has the highest rate of feral hogs to date, according to environmentalists.

For deer hunter Justin Lanclos, the very sighting of a feral pig means trouble.

"If you start to see hogs in your hunting area, you are absolutely not going to see deer," said Lanclos, a 33-year-old bowhunter from Sulthur, La.

"Deer are extremely smart and elusive," Lanclos told FoxNews.com. "They just don’t like to occupy the same area as hogs."

Lanclos, the owner of retailer Louisiana Bowhunter, said he recently received a photo showing a herd of hogs -- or sounder -- running off with a whitetail fawn. The image, believed to have been taken in Louisiana, has since gone viral on social media.

"We’ve got other photos of feral hogs carrying fawns," noted LaCour. "If the hogs are coming through a field and they happen to come across it, they’re going to eat it."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/31/deer-hunters-face-unwanted-competition-as-feral-hog-explosion-thins-herds.html
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Broad snouted caiman with what looks to be a very young capybara
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Another:
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http://www.radiocacula.com.br/noticias/reporter-news/jacare-mata-capivara-e-abandona-presa-na-lagoa-maior
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Gaboon viper strikes a young bird
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Mugger crocodile attacking a sambar fawn
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Outside of my work the other day. Mom took the picture. Dunno the species but how cool is this?
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( Not sure if has been posted in this topic ) Cougar kills Capybara, Brazil:

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Burmese python with possum(left) and Great egret remains(right)
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Wolverine injures female reindeer
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Found half eaten reindeer alive
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(AP) The wolverine before the half-eaten deer live to keep food fresh, according reindeer herder.
This case is about:

The deer was found by two reindeer herders in Målselv in Central Troms just after Easter. They were out on their usual morning schedule to conduct supervision on pasture when they were met by the grotesque sight.

- We realized that there was something wrong because åtselfugler had gathered in the mountainous area around. As we got closer we saw quickly that we had a very wounded animal to do, says one reindeer herder told AP.

When the reindeer herders came closer they realized that there had been a larger predator afoot. The animal had begun to eat the tail end of the neck and forward of the back portion.

- Simla lay on the ground, but when we got closer to it arose on all fours to try to pull away. But it was unable to go, the only stood up and stood there, says reindeer herder.

common tactic

They are in no doubt that this is the wolverine work.

- We saw this clearly in the tracks and bite injuries. Wolverines go in the neck, while the lynx caught in his throat.


They took pictures of reindeer to document the loss, before the deer were killed on the spot. By examining the tracks in the snow they assume that the wolverine has hunted deer against a steep cliff, then attack.

- This could be a tactic from wolverine, it keeps the deer alive to have fresh food available. In other cases we have seen that the wolverine has blinded animals by biting them in the eye, so that the animal romp around in a small area. Then you know wolverine where the food is, says reindeer herder.

Norwegian Nature Inspectorate Troms confirms that the deer was taken by wolverines.

- It happens that the wolverine only damage the animal rather than killing them. But here it can also been disturbed by reindeer herders, it's hard to tell, says predator responsible Thomas Johansen told VG Nett.

Despairing herders

Simla belongs to a herder in Mauken / Tromsdalen reindeer grazing. Reindeer herders in the district say that such views are becoming more common.

- Both live reindeer and cadavers we see more and more of. Seeing our livelihood being eaten up as bad every time, says reindeer herder Karen Anette Anti Oskal to VG Nett.

- We try to protect our children against this, but they can not be protected forever.

- Unsuccessful predator policy

Last year it was recorded 18 wolverines in Troms and Finnmark, while population target was 10 wolverines. Throughout the country, the number of wolverines 20 more than its target numbers, the latest figures from rovdata.no.

Anti Oskal mean predator policy in Norway has been unsuccessful, and therefore sent the image of the half-eaten deer to Undersecretary of the Ministry of Environment, Heidi Sørensen (SV).

- We know that the that such things happen in nature, but I was very upset when I saw it documented in this way. I think it is important that politicians also get to see it and have to deal with it, says Anti Oskal.


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Wolverine fatally wounds female moose
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