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Jaguars v Caimans
Topic Started: Aug 28 2013, 08:05 AM (10,426 Views)
zergthe
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At parity, I believe (I could be wrong) the jaguar would defeat a few of its Panthera relatives.
I also saw the vid with my dad...I thought it was a snake until it pounced!
Edited by zergthe, Dec 12 2015, 02:36 AM.
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The jaguar is a pretty strong cat, however, these caiman typically weigh half of what jaguars do(though a small female is around the size of a large yacare). This is a big caiman in respect to the jaguar, though, I'm guessing ~40kg.
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Aug 29 2013, 04:04 AM
k9boy
Aug 29 2013, 03:58 AM
Amazing find dude. We need more documentarys on jaguars. Only seen one.
Agreed, along with Amur Tigers and Leopards, as well as a few smaller wild cats they are sadly under documented.

There's three documentaries that I know off about Jaguars, two by National Geographic and one by the BBC.
Not only Siberian tigers bt also northern bengal tigers from Nepal eg- chitwan and bardia needs to be documented :( most videos are only from high visibility areas of ranthambore and bandhavgarh, and for leopards we still haven't seen more on the Srilankan variety, it would be nice to see their interaction with sloth bear, wildboar, crocs, water buffaloes and sambar cuz they are the top predator there and it would be awesome.
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who will win in a fight? Jaguar or male african leopard?
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who will win in a fight? Jaguar or male african leopard?


Pantanal Male Jaguar win
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Jaguar v. Caiman Death Battle Photographed in Brazil

By Stephanie Pappas, Live Science Contributor | October 2, 2017 07:20am ET

A crocodile-like caiman became lunch for a jaguar in the Brazilian Pantanal, and a wildlife photographer was there to document every gruesome minute.

United Kingdom-based wildlife philosopher Chris Brunskill shot almost 50 gigabytes of images of the jaguar-caiman matchup, which ended when the big cat dragged its prey into the dense forest on the banks of the Rio Tres Irmaos. Though caimans seem more suited to hunting than being hunted, they're a common meal for Brazilian jaguars (Panthera onca). This one was an ambitious target for the young jaguar, though. Brunskill wrote on his Facebook page that it was the largest jacare caiman he'd ever seen along the riverbanks in the marshland known as the Pantanal.

"After a long struggle, she immobilised the giant reptile with the trademark jaguar bite to the back of the skull, and then dragged the huge carcass for over twenty minutes across an open beach into thick cover," Brunskill wrote.

Skull-crushing hunters

Jaguars are the only remaining species in the genus Panthera found in the New World. They live mostly in South America and the southern portion of Central America, though the occasional wanderer dips into southern Arizona. The species used to range across the entire American Southwest, but were trapped and shot to make way for ranching and other human activities.

In the Pantanal, an enormous tropical wetland located mostly in Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil, jaguars still stalk their prey. They eat at least 85 different species, according to a 1996 report by the cat specialist group for the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN).

Caiman are one of those species. Jacare, or yacare, caiman are common species in the Pantanal, according to the conservation site crocodilian.com. Adults grow between 8.2 and 9.8 feet (2.5 and 3 meters) in length. Jaguars may have specifically evolved to hunt prey like caiman: According to the IUCN report, their thick jaws, stout skulls and unique tendency to kill by biting through their prey's skull may be adaptations that allowed jaguars to hunt well-armored reptilian prey like caiman and turtles.

Predator matchup

Other favorite jaguar foods include deer and tapirs, as well as capybaras, which are the world's largest rodents. In fact, the jaguar captured in Brunskill's photographs charged a group of capybaras several times before pouncing on the caiman, he wrote. Earlier during his trip to the region, Brunskill captured a photograph of another jaguar stalking capybara by the riverbank and a third big cat leaping from the riverbank into the water in a failed attempt to catch a caiman.

Brunskill has photographed caiman-versus-jaguar fights before, including shots that made headlines in 2014. (That time, the caiman got away.) Caiman, for their part, rarely seem to kill jaguars. According to Crocodilian.com, they prefer less wily prey, including fish, snakes and snails.

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now thats a big caiman. wow
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k9boy
Oct 3 2017, 11:12 PM
now thats a big caiman. wow
Not that big...its like a teenage crocodile.
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Photos Show Jaguar 'Scarface' Taking Down Dangerous Prey
Jaguars have some of the most powerful bites of any big cat. They can kill and paralyze prey instantly.


When big cat photographer Steve Winter went to Brazil's Pantanal National Park in 2016, he was on a mission to document jaguars. And in the story of how he got one of his most incredible shots, Scarface is his protagonist.

Winter had been trailing the 10-year-old alpha jaguar non-stop for four days. Traveling down a river that cuts through dense Brazilian forest, Winter and his cameraman Bertie Gregory had seen the large cat with a split lip lunge at and miss over a dozen previous targets. They were beginning to think they wouldn't document a kill.


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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/proof/2017/12/jaguar-crocodile/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=NEWS&utm_content=link_fbwd20171205NEWSjaguarcrocodile&sf175206860=1
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I wish there were some photos or videos of jaguars actually eating the caimans they catch. Even a picture of an eaten caiman would be nice. I'm just curious to know what parts the jags favour, and what animals scavenge on them.
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Is there any documented interaction between Black Caiman and Jaguars?
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Here's a video of my above post:

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Jaguar with caiman kill: https://g1.globo.com/mt/mato-grosso/noticia/onca-escala-barranco-de-rio-no-pantanal-agarrada-a-um-jacare-em-mt-veja-video.ghtml

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Also don't think these videos have been posted:

Edited by Hydrus, Jan 10 2018, 04:26 PM.
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Missed, nice dive though. 10/10


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